[09:41] franz  so what about this gravel cat?

[09:41] franz  is he the none of the above candadite

[09:42] josh_k  oh man

[09:42] josh_k  he's the love child of Kucinich and McCain

[09:42] josh_k  and from Alaska to boot

[09:43] josh_k  I could actually see it being a lot of fun to start a grasroots support base for him

[09:43] franz  thats what i am thinking

[09:43] josh_k  lots of good video out there, etc

[09:43] josh_k  gravelrocks.com

[09:43] franz  i see him as a potential stalking horse

[09:44] josh_k  with a lot of cursing

[09:44] franz  i know

[09:44] josh_k  "Tired of the bullshit? Mike Gravel will drop the hammer!"

[09:44] franz  that sparta clip had it going on

[09:44] josh_k  sparta clip?

[09:44] franz  where he talks about gays in the military

[09:44] franz  and he says the spartans were a little gay

[09:44] franz  and that made them better warriors

[09:44] josh_k  telling it like it is

[09:45] franz  because they had a deep emotional connection with their fellow soldiers

[09:45] franz  well

[09:45] josh_k  straight outta socrates

[09:45] franz  i am glad that somebody is willing to talk about the millitary industrial complex

[09:45] franz  i think that this guy could get up to 12%

[09:45] josh_k  indeed

[09:45] josh_k  and that would shift the debate

[09:45] josh_k  MOVE THE GOALPOSTS, BITCHES

[09:46] josh_k  that could be the headline

[09:46] josh_k  like

[09:46] josh_k  let's not pretend

[09:46] josh_k  we're doing something we're not

[09:47] franz  so he is a protest candidate

[09:47] franz  and we can be good dems and support who the nominee is

[09:47] franz  we have done it before

[09:47] josh_k  indeed

[09:47] franz  but until than

[09:47] franz  fuck it

[09:47] franz  keep shit real

[09:47] josh_k  word

[09:48] franz  maybe i have been watching to many of the RATM clips from coachella

[09:51] franz  he could be the eugene mccarthy to gores rfk